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# 2026-02-22
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## 2200
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Requirements:
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- Need a better Revolt client that's cross-platform native
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- Ideally macOS / iPadOS / iOS / Windows / Linux / Android / Web
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- Need the UI / UX to be top-notch and feel good in the hands, otherwise people won't use it
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- On top of this, it should also be _fun_ and _cute_
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- Accessibility should be considered, but I do not have experience in this area, will need to do research
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- Currently Revolt has a (now deprecated) web app and a native app that doesn't support custom endpoints
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- We're forking from Revolt, so don't need to worry about breaking changes on their end
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- Sticking with the name ermine cause I like it (stylized `ermine` all lowercase to be cool)
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- Decided to try using Slint + Rust for a more bare-bones low-level approach
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- Licensing
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- Slint requires GPLv3 without a paid license - fine with this
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- Revolt is also AGPLv3
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- Code I write will be MIT as I don't want to hinder people re-using anything for any reason
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- Have already spent a number of hours 100% vibe coding a prototype
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- Used Flutter + Dart (was considered for this iteration)
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- It worked okay, had a UX close to what I want as a starting point, so we know what we want is possible, we just need to build it
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- There are just too many bugs and there's no way to trust the code written underneath
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- Feel awful and ashamed of vibe coding, giving away my agency and creativity to an LLM and to big tech, rotting away my ability to create
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- This is a project to push myself outside of my comfort zone towards something I've not done before, to grow beyond the limitations I've placed upon myself
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- Having seen what other people've worked on, over months, and the kind of dedication they have towards software quality, I know this is something that will take time to craft instead of something I can bang out in a few hyperfixated days
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Resources:
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- Slint
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- https://docs.slint.dev/latest/docs/slint/
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- Rust
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- https://docs.rs/http/latest/http/
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- https://docs.rs/sqlite/latest/sqlite/
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- https://docs.rs/json/latest/json/
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- https://docs.rs/websocket/latest/websocket/
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- https://doc.rust-lang.org/rust-by-example/testing/unit_testing.html
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- Revolt
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- https://developers.stoat.chat/developers/endpoints/
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- https://developers.stoat.chat/api-reference
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- https://stoat.chat/api
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- https://revolt.handmadecities.com/api
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- https://github.com/livekit/livekit
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- HMC
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- https://git.handmadecities.com/HMC/handmade-revolt
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Notes:
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- Slint reminds me a lot of when I tried messing with SwiftUI
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- Trying to make things look pretty early on is a fools errand
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- Need to remember to make things work, then make them look nice
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- Have not used Rust before so this should be interesting
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- HMC Revolt seems to be on version 0.8.2 while Stoat is now on 0.11.5
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- Have an OpenAPI spec for the latest stoat, but no historical ones
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- Need to figure out what differences exist, if any, and how to support different server versions cleanly
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- Seems like there's an `/api` endpoint with information about the server (if it's a revolt server)
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- App version
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- autumn endpoint (file server)
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- january endpoint (media server)
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- voso ?
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- livekit ?
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- livekit seems to be what's used for voice / video support
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- Currently not supported by HMC Revolt instance
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- main websocket
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- Trying to use progenitor + openAPI spec to generate rust code, not going that well, and Gwen said it may be better to write these by hand
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- progenitor didn't work due to it operating under the assumption that endpoints only return one type, which this spec violates (https://github.com/oxidecomputer/progenitor/issues/950)
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- Read through documentation mostly, taking it slow and making sure I understand how things are working, being patient with myself
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