# 2026-02-22 ## 2200 Requirements: - Need a better Revolt client that's cross-platform native - Ideally macOS / iPadOS / iOS / Windows / Linux / Android / Web - Need the UI / UX to be top-notch and feel good in the hands, otherwise people won't use it - On top of this, it should also be _fun_ and _cute_ - Accessibility should be considered, but I do not have experience in this area, will need to do research - Currently Revolt has a (now deprecated) web app and a native app that doesn't support custom endpoints - We're forking from Revolt, so don't need to worry about breaking changes on their end - Sticking with the name ermine cause I like it (stylized `ermine` all lowercase to be cool) - Decided to try using Slint + Rust for a more bare-bones low-level approach - Licensing - Slint requires GPLv3 without a paid license - fine with this - Revolt is also AGPLv3 - Code I write will be MIT as I don't want to hinder people re-using anything for any reason - Have already spent a number of hours 100% vibe coding a prototype - Used Flutter + Dart (was considered for this iteration) - It worked okay, had a UX close to what I want as a starting point, so we know what we want is possible, we just need to build it - There are just too many bugs and there's no way to trust the code written underneath - Feel awful and ashamed of vibe coding, giving away my agency and creativity to an LLM and to big tech, rotting away my ability to create - This is a project to push myself outside of my comfort zone towards something I've not done before, to grow beyond the limitations I've placed upon myself - Having seen what other people've worked on, over months, and the kind of dedication they have towards software quality, I know this is something that will take time to craft instead of something I can bang out in a few hyperfixated days Resources: - Slint - https://docs.slint.dev/latest/docs/slint/ - Rust - https://docs.rs/http/latest/http/ - https://docs.rs/sqlite/latest/sqlite/ - https://docs.rs/json/latest/json/ - https://docs.rs/websocket/latest/websocket/ - https://doc.rust-lang.org/rust-by-example/testing/unit_testing.html - Revolt - https://developers.stoat.chat/developers/endpoints/ - https://developers.stoat.chat/api-reference - https://stoat.chat/api - https://revolt.handmadecities.com/api - https://github.com/livekit/livekit - HMC - https://git.handmadecities.com/HMC/handmade-revolt Notes: - Slint reminds me a lot of when I tried messing with SwiftUI - Trying to make things look pretty early on is a fools errand - Need to remember to make things work, then make them look nice - Have not used Rust before so this should be interesting - HMC Revolt seems to be on version 0.8.2 while Stoat is now on 0.11.5 - Have an OpenAPI spec for the latest stoat, but no historical ones - Need to figure out what differences exist, if any, and how to support different server versions cleanly - Seems like there's an `/api` endpoint with information about the server (if it's a revolt server) - App version - autumn endpoint (file server) - january endpoint (media server) - voso ? - livekit ? - livekit seems to be what's used for voice / video support - Currently not supported by HMC Revolt instance - main websocket - Trying to use progenitor + openAPI spec to generate rust code, not going that well, and Gwen said it may be better to write these by hand - progenitor didn't work due to it operating under the assumption that endpoints only return one type, which this spec violates (https://github.com/oxidecomputer/progenitor/issues/950) - Read through documentation mostly, taking it slow and making sure I understand how things are working, being patient with myself # 2026-03-20 ## 0220 Figured the API endpoint (`/api`) would be a good place to start. Now have successful deserialization. Sidebars are important, so I added two, one for channel list and another for server list. I'm still trying to figure out the best way to integrate different instances seamlessly.